BUCKAROO GUIDE - E-Mails to Buckaroo Guide

well it wasnt the fair it was just a dave stamey/adrian concert but yea it was sweet...went and checked out all the hot spots ended up sitting to a couple of white king members it seemed as if they'd been paying homage for atleast an hour prior to the concert, though they were good entertainment untill the music started!
Then saw the buckaroo museum, the Elko museum on the drag...
and got some good pics to send in too!! T****

Thanks for all you do. I log in every day and get all the gossip and what's happening, appreciate your links page. T*********

omy god i just went thru the buckaroo guide........what a cool walk thru the past,hey under publications you for got to list after balin twine rosin jaws of our time.with apic of haybarn burnig on the cover by paul summers and thor cant remember his last name..............thanks for the dose of nostagia

hey you need a section about the groupies sub species of the white king cult,the carlin tunnel,the celibate sisters,remember spider tellers wife walking nightmare,angie eagle i hear her and mikey are married.......you never saw them girls except when we were all in town,u could go in in the middle of the month for something and never catch sight of them.................. jesus young lady i had a blast goin thru that thing...brought back some old times it did........i can't go thru it much cause i have sattlelite internet and bein sorta cowpokey i have the cheap plan,if i download to much locks me down for 24 hrs......... thanks again for the memories........ P****

Re: Toasted or Roasted: What about William Matthews?
He's ALWAYS painting gear wrong, putting moustaches on guys who don't have one, or some other weird thing. He totally needs to research a bit more... Have you seen the new Poetry Gathering poster? IT's AWFUL!! The horse has three lips, no throat latch, etc.... plus he's a brown-nosed jerk to the actual nobodies he makes thousands of dollars on....
I dunno, its an idea... A*******************

Holy Pete woman I'm getting hits from all over the place now! Scary! I was
told once by someone we both know that us Canadians couldn't be on the Guide
'cause we were all lacking in tradition.
You should be writing a blog, you'd be good at it and it would be a great
way of promoting your book if you did start and just think of all the
feedback YOU'D get about the Guide. Seeing as how my blog has been outed I
was wondering if it would be alright if I listed the Guide in my links? L****************

Was talking to a younger guy who made the circle out there and ain't it funny that so many of them good hands, old and young, out in that country, came from the Dakota's and Montana? :) D**************

"Just an old timer here. Your site brings back a lot of memories and I knew a lot of the faces and places in the ION you have up. And it makes me laugh yah I paid my homage to White King Cult too. These kids nowadays comin' on are so full of themselves it makes me wanna puke. These punks got the "whole costume goin' on" like you say but that's about it. I won't wear no flat hat no more on account of all this shit. It's all over you know, them good days are gone. I bet you catch a lot of shit but thanks for sayin' what everyone else is too chicken to say in public about some of these ranches and the dinks runnin' them. vaya con dios." K*********

I like keeping up on the underground by visiting your site!! You know lots of my people....haha! Be careful you do not get duped by Claude Dallas imposters....to find out if you are talking to the real guy..........ask him who he spent christmas dinner with @ XXXXX REDACTED XXXX ranch when he was released on bale... it was XXXXXX. I like to think he is in the outback somewhere doing what he has dreamed of forever.....Gods blessings, X*******

".....dont know where you got the pictures of me but u should have asked me fist before useing them ans insted putting roomers about people you need to interview them what your doing is wrong" ~~~~ C******* in Elko ***Note: we have yet to find the picture(s) he is referring to on this site....and if what we're doing is wrong, well, we'd rather be wrong...than right....

What about the Thompsons - Ervin Thompson ran the White House for Ellison for 25 years from around 1959 to 1984. His son Stan took over the WH for a couple years then ran the Dunphy for John Marvel from 1986 to 1992.

Then there are some legends like Less Morgan with sons Ray, Jerry, and Tom Morgan. Daughters you might know - Betty (Snooks) Smith, Dixie (Joe) Chaves.

There was also a guy that all I remember anyone calling him was Wildhorse. Then there was Leppy from the Horseshoe.
Bucky Lamb?
~I don't care if I was related, but John Casey just might be a bad word M***************

LARRY FUEGEN DOES GREEN KING: Here's my version of Green King, after you've stepped on his tale a few times. It's called THE RIPPER, and it sold in Missoula Montana last month at a knife show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfEFqRlmHXE

It's a folding Knife with a carved stag handle and a Damascus steel handforged blade.
Larry Fuegen

hope this meets you with good health and spirit. the updated page is awesome. fuck the white horse ranch. men like that disgrace the traditions thats been in the making for generations by people that deserve to be called cowboy, buckaroo, vaquero, or gaucho. one of my college profeesors asked me what cowboy or buckaroo means, hes never really understood the full termonology of that word. i tried telling him that you are it, but you dont call yourself that. we are just what God made us. no more no less. you cant define a mans life by a mere word. too much is that term used too loosley by men and woman that want to be it but arent willing to sacrafice the ammenities of life. they will wear the hat and chinks, but wont live the life. you cant put a term or word on working a nevada winter, or a fire season in northern california movin cows from summer grass to summer grass. people ask me what i do, i jsut reply that i work my ass off for the men that pay me. no more, no less. i am what God made me, and i thank him every day for that. J********

All the whiners about your website I think are just jealous that they didn't think of it before you did. You go where no one else will and it needed to be done so keep up the fight and keep being funny. Thanks for standing up for the little guy rancher my husband says to tell you. I love the links page and the way you also post up condolenses for cowboy's families and post upcoming events, we all enjoy checking it for updates. Your like buckaroo central! V**********

Hey, Thought you may want another example for your wannabe page. Go to youtube.com and type in "hats off to elko" the first guy they interview on the video sure describes a wannabe. Atleast looking at him he does! Keep up the good work...
-Concerned Oregon Type

I was so glad to see and read yer Roasting page this month its about time somebody called these assholes to the carpet. I think we all know where this is all leading, Thats the demise of the cowboy way of life as it has been known for over a century. So, what happened to bein' a stand up guy? To the traditions and moral fiber that has always been the root of ranching and the cowboy way? I reckon they don't feel the need to take care of there own! WARNING TO THEM: becareful who you step on on the way to the top!!!
I for one am willing to "go down with the ship". At least I'll have my dignity and hope I can show a little class on the way out. So tonight I will raise a glass to the unmoveable BUCKAROO GUIDE for being who we all can be real proud of!!!!! A****************

Thought I recognized one of the Idaho types. Looked like a transvestite I passed in the Holland Tunnel last winter.

On a somewhat more serious note: I think I saw some of this "style" creeping into the garb at a "ranch rodeo" in the Osage the other day. Need to build one of those fences they're talking about for down on the river - only this one should start at the 4 corners and go north to the Canuck line. I was laughing so hard at all the stovepipe boots and bandanas [95 degrees] that I missed the trip on my second steer.

Got to work on my own costume - once I get a theme for it. j******

I would rather see a good picture of a herder's wagon on the Guide, than a dink from Dufur. T********

Hi, im j*******. i work in the marble mountains in northern california as a packer and try to find day work when i can. i was introduced to your site by a good buddy of mine that ranches in scott valley not too far from here. i wasn wondering if you could email me the poem that you had up written by rick bates. i thought it was pretty good and just wanted to read it again. i dont have a tv up here (i dont like television) just a phone line and internet. but it was a good poem and just wanted it in my computer so i can read it when i get the feeling to. i appreciate it and i know you hear this alot, but keep up the good work cus i think its worth it to keep and hinest tradition alive. too much is being lost with a padssing of a generation, especialy a tadition such as a true cowboy. J******

"......we'll get everyone involved in the act. Have people buy their OWN iguana and pose him, then send the pics to the guide!!! A whole new section!! This could be the start of a major phenomenon . . . Green King at brandings, Elko Gathering . . . THE CALIFORNIOS HA HA HA HA HA!!!! I think I will offer a prize to the first person who can get a pic of either Gwen or Banana-bread posing with him!!!

Link: http://anwo.com/store/iguana_toy_baby_miniature.htm " R******

Just wanted to drop a line and give you another saddlemaker link. ryan cope's link is www.copesaddlery.com. nice site. wanted also to say although i am back in ohio, i can't get enough of the site. brings back good memories from when i was in bruneau. again love the site. P**

Saw your comments about the military bases who come to your website, have a son in Iraq, thanks for your support. T*******

I am surprised there hasnt been a category added for groupies of the site alone. I am afraid its an addiction far worse than Copenhagen and whisky, is there rehab available for this kind of thing? Its the best thing I have ever seen on the internet and it had the cool link to this board, funny how we all get a good laugh and get a chance to share stories and shoot the shit. B*****************

There is no rehab....The sight is it's own detox. Everytime you look at the sight one feels they need to pay homage to those who are on it and those that it represents. So, the rehab is just to get out and sling your wood on the beast. Twist a sturrip and step up into the rehab for awhile.
And for alittle bit it will make you clean and whole and set you amongs the Giants that are on there. It is better than whiskey cause your mind is right. And for a bit we are one of them, sweating hurting and laughing and riding proud. That's the detox of the sight. Thanks Armita. S*************

Hate to say it, but everyday i am on the computer i go to the site. yep i'm addicted. there i said it. i think that is the first step to a good recovery. P************

You.........Are........A........God! That is one of the best things I have ever read. And so true! Yup, the outside of a horse is good for the inside of a man! J******

If I had any inkling on who started this, I would think that I did..... I have a horse that I named after Ricky Morris who is a dear friend of Dwight Hill who is another name that did not get mentioned.  Hank Brackenbury is not computer literate enough but the guy is a scream... His wife is great also. I had so many deja vu moments when reading this. My god I could swear I did....
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The person who wrote this is a brilliant. I love the wit and sarcasm.   This person has to know Bobby Linn. He has to know Jess Brackenbury and Sammy too.  Mary, who ever did this one is total hats off.....   I appreciate the command of the English Language...

Here is a website to help the cliches.   Please pass it forward to Phantom writer.   www.californiaranchhorse.com

I absolutely love it!!! The best Z*******************

I got goose bumps looking at the photo (on the Oregon page) of them cows all lined out accross the valley. It sure took me back to a happier time in my life. When the're all lined out like that it just makes ya feel like ya got things "goin' on", alot of pride in a job well done. No Gunsels in there screwin up the natural order of a thousand cows on the move. Ahmen Thankyou P************

Hey your site it is too f*ckin much. The cult of white kling page has gotten even worse oh I mean better HA. But you need to do the Card again! Been there many times passed out! Give all the bogus Wannabe ranch roping arena raised crossbreds crowd hell. Please roast Mindy Bowers and that whole worthless clinic whores Montana bunch up there that never been in a rodear in their lifes or seen a prolapsed cow and never will HA but they wanna look like they stepped out of Tuscarora well here clinic this gunsels..... Rez links rock, thanks for including... T********

Just wanted to say thanks for posting that white hats section on the Guide. I liked it a lot. Also, thanks for posting that picture of the stuffed White King (snow bear) too. I showed it to C*******, my four year old, who I wrote that Snow Bear post about a while back. He thinks that White King is the coolest thing in the world and is telling everyone that he is a member of the Snow Bear Club, since I told him about WC post making him a member. I told him that you posted the picture of the stuffed bear for him and he was really excited. He keeps asking me when we can go stay at the Snow Bear Hotel. I think it is a riot, so thanks. I'm gonna call the commercial and see if I can order a bear and the pen for him and have them send it to me. Just thought you might get a kick out of the story..... R*****

I was looking at the Guide today and my four year old son saw "White King" and said "Daddy I really like that snow bear." He now wants to go to where the "snow bear lives" to visit him. Should I be concerned? Is this a future White King worshiper? Will he be granfathered into the Cult for wanting to lay his favorite toys at the feet of this icon. R**************

I heard you were looking for pictures. I have lots of photos from over the years.... Anyway I have hundreds of these things I even have one or two of Bill Maupin when I worked at the Riddle Ranch. But that particular one I left in Oregon. I am fucking around in St Petersburg Russia right now and don't expect to be back to Oregon for several more months yet. Somebody once said, "You can always tell which cow is which by their "hair-dos." Think about it. Actually, I think it was Bill Maupin who told me that, but it was something that some else who worked with him had said to him....And by the way, old Billy Maupin knows I am here because I called him up a couple of months ago and told him. Oh yeah, and he can drink......he's out drunk me enough....I'm almost afraid to visit his house for fear of it. Unfortunately, I don't think I took any of Merv when I was at Squaw Valley, but I may have one or two of Charlie Smith somewhere. I'll send some more photos when I get a chance.... D************

What the hell is that sagely fella doin in that video? Oh I shouldnt have done this. Oh I shouldnt have done that. Oh I shouldnt have made this damn video and made myself look like a jackass. S***************

Hi, Found these lost or deported buckaroos working in obscurity when writing a story on the Wagonhound outfit in WY. Good hands, cool, calm and collected. All business and great horsemen. 3.500 Red Angus and a couple of hundred horses on 150.000 acres, gotta love it. The guy´s featured are Kevin Meyer, Matt Kelly and Chad Milius.

Love Your site by the way! (dislocated my jaw laughing, spilled my dip all over the keybord)

What´s up with the all the wining though? Guy´s act as if they got something to fear from the wannabes? Gees, it´ll pass. Givem a few years and something new comes along to grab their attention. Off they go like a flock of geese, chasing the old way´s of the Moors or pestering the lives of the Chineese and their ways to tame Buffalo for their rise fields. Everybody runs off and buy´s "Mao" suits and kuli hats.

Don´t get me wrong, I´ll gladly steel, borrow and cheat you out of stuff if I think I can use it. Cattle handling, some roping technique, a bit or two, probably the hackamore. But You´ll never se me sporting one of those butt uggly Amish-looking lids some wear or Armitas with more fringes than there´s hair on my horse behind. A Yacht sail or parashute leftover around my neck? Don´t think so. Hell, I have a hard time staying grounded as is.

Point being, that to grow and learn you pick up stuff where you can find it. Be it some "horsemanshippididoodahclinic" or whatever. You take what You like and disgard the rest. Shake it, bake it and make it your own. That´s evolution.

This sight has become the best thing thats happened to the whole buckaroo fad thing. If we can't laugh at our selfs like you say why even get up in the mornin? I like the front page, I damn near started cryin' when I first saw it brought back old memories and I see lots of old friends. I just wish I had high speed connection takes long too load the pictures but worth the wait. Long Live Claude Dallas! H*********

There is a picture about 3/4 down the picture looks like a black and white of Ira Wines is that him. It sure looks close who is it he is wearing armitas B*****

Suprised and glad to see Craig Jones up on the idaho page he IS the real deal alright and damn fine hand. Keep up the good work and thanks for putting the real workin guys and gals up there. S********

I'm glad you like them (armitas). I really appreciate the work you are doing with the website and giving credit where credit is due! If it wasn't for the
men and women of buckaroo days gone by, this world, would be a pretty dull place. Enjoy the armitas tell all of your friends you like 'em and keep up the good work! I have attached a copy of my business card. Thanks again! T**********

Have you heard about the two streakers at JV? Two teens ran from the concession stand by the bucking horse chutes across the arena to the other end, where a certain Monsignor was sitting on his horse. He takes a couple of swings, and roped one of the young teens by the leg. The teen slips the loop, he rebuilds and swings again, catches one leg again and the teen slips out, and runs towards the trailers.

Glad your getting some mileage out of my Buck pictures! You should try and track Homer down through the guide, see what he made of himself. I still enjoy the Guide. I look at it a couple of times a week when I get into the ranch office. We have a high speed connection up there. W*****

Thank you for putting the family picture of the Schuttes up on your front page. Everyone knows about Larry but Toni was one of the best hands around of course you know that you worked around her too. God bless, L********

I think it is time we roasted the Buckaroo Guide. What is up with it lately anyway. It is beginning to read like the obituaries. I mean I get the whole exalting of the legends. I really like seeing pictures of people that I have heard and read about but no humor?

It used to get updated daily, sometimes more. Maybe the keeper of the Green King is involved in the Hollywood writers strike. Isn't that over though? Of course she mentioned some guy she saw at the feed store so maybe she is to busy chasing tail?

The crossbreed page came and went like dirty underwear. I think it was because we were showing up all the Nevada dinks and they were afraid someone might find out that there were good hands east of Elko.

The wannabe page is just that, a wannabe page. I thought there was going to be some good stuff come out of the Mindy Bower debacle, however if there was I missed it.

The Rick Bates roast was kinda flat. Sounded like someone was planning a eulogy. I mean I am assuming he is not dead. It says he now owns a livestock hauling business. Maybe he is doing it posthumously? Rick Bates, the real driver of "Phantom 309" The funniest thing was the picture of him with the long hair looking like an extra off the set of "Brave Heart". (no offense meant to Rick Bates) I remember reading about Mr. Bates in Kurt Markus' "Buckaroo" and I still wonder from time to time what ever happened to the boy he called "Homer". There is someone that it sounds like had to take a lot of shit! W********

You keep spurrin'em in the gut gal, me and some other guys all log onto your site few times a week here in Elko it sure beats the hell out of flogging sheep and slapping gophers as you would say...heh heh heh.... So if the clinic whores can't take it they can shove it. Thanks for postin' the pics on the front page, some great folk up there, keep them up there for all posterity so everyone can see. We love the links page, it keeps us really broke. Oh and P**** says hey howabout a brothel guide next? J**********

Finaly someone has said it, it aint the outfit that makes a cowboy its the cowboy that makes the outfit. i bet i have one on you guys were was this written "ra ra rooster shit, ten thousand roosters tied in a knot, eat a pussy make it quiver we are the boys from the owhyee river." i think that is all of it. its about damn time someone told it how it is, all these bastards drive in brand new pickups and buy expensive marsh bridles or whatever and dont have one damn clue how to use them. they can buy the tack and try to make a horse buck adn that is the end of it. not one clue about how a cow thnks or what a horse is thinking, just about how pretty they look and its god damned frustrating to hold a rodear with someone who is alwyas in the way. i was at a deal that old bannabread was at, he was a nice guy even drank shots of whiskey with us, but percentage wise was one of the worst ropers there, nice man to talk to though when i met him. but was outclassed at that deal (not saying i am a great roper, damn lucky SOMETIMES) i will probably get killed for saying that. D******************

I just read the whole Eclectric Horesman back and forth and wanted to thank you for standing up for the true working cowboy, buckaroo, vaquero,or whatever. I'm just a kid, still in college, but I grew up on a ranch, that's all I've ever known, and all I'll probably know as I'm more than likely not smart enough to get a 'good' county or government job. But that's okay with me. I thought it was interesting how they made a point of that lady still riding the colt that bucked her off and broke her arm; I wonder if they they ever considered how many of the old time hands got busted up by some dink that never did amount to anything but stringy dog food? Even I get tired of the 'buckaroo craze' that's going through the horse world these days, some rich mecate-rein-snaffle-bitin'-sob dons their finest in leather goods to go out and ride around on their friends place to help with a branding, or gather for the 'fall works' so they can go back to wherever they smoozed from and brag about being a big time vaquero: "We almost didn't get all 50 of them into the pen but ol' Shiny and I just wouldn't let anything past us...." But ya never see the worthless bastards when the wind's blowing snow in your face at 60+ mph, and you gotta be out in it trying to save worthless cows that don't have the sense to get off the flat and up in the hills because supposedly they were bred for gentle disposition that just ended up being stupidity. And why were they 'bred for good diposition'? Because some worthless granola cruncher wanted to reconnect with with rural america only to find that rural america was a mean, snorty bitch trying to protect her calf, and now they're suing because they got tangled in their nickle plated colorado saddlery garcia knock off spurs and didn't quite make it to the fence in time. Anyway, you've probably heard it all before. I just wanted to say thanks for what you are doing and what you are trying to preserve it's a part of out tradition and culture that is quickly being stamped out by the tree huggin', bunny breedin', granola crunchin' dirt worshippers. I only hope that us young guys aren't a complete dissapointment to those of you who have already been there and done that as they say. Thanks again. R**********

Just read your reply to the EH. Thank you for the Guide and setting the record straight. I get tired of seeing guys in hats, flat or taco, thinking that just because they wear a hat and sit on a horse, they are cowboys. I too have paid my dues, broken back, arthritic knees, shoulder and on and on, and the only time I didn't get right back on a horse was when I was laid up in a hospital bed with a broken back. I respect every buckaroo or cowboy who has laid it all out there on the ranch for the chance to do what we want to do and a little bit of money. I guess I would have to be classified as a crossbreed Colorado type, but I did put in a little time in Nevada. Everyone I know that has been to the Guide and liked it has paid their dues on a ranch somewhere. The buckaroo gets my respect for keeping the old ways and doing it right. Thanks for the Guide and not being afraid to bruise someone's ego, keep it up. Here's to the "ones who still hear the call", as Ian Tyson put it. T*********

As i sit here on the computer i relize none of this shit was really ever an issue before the WWW. about a two years ago i bought my first computer for the sole purpose of e-bay, a friend turned me on to it to find some used tools i was needing. After i found what i was looking for i started looking for bits spurs etc... I was addicted to ebay and still am to some extint. However i soon came to the realization that when you have a bunch of dam dudes bidding up mexican made silver bits and spurs to ridiculous amounts that the internet would be the end of the true culture of the cowboy, weather your talking about brushpoppers or buckaroos the Internet and current culture have basterdized a whole subculture of society that prior to the WWW had their own rules, their own code, their own people. It was rearly seen or heard from because you couldnt see it from the road, and thier dam sure wasnt any money in it. Armitas, The men you speak of I know, mabey not the exact names and faces but i know of these icons of a time and lifestyle that has passed, and make no mistake about it it has passed. The people that question your passion for a set of values and rules no not what you speak of they could not fathum the ropes at the SPAN, or Merv lineing them out over at 21 mile, or the hundreds of other small straight up outfits. Ya they have seen the pictures, pictures that were taken to reveal the almost invisable and often gaurded world we knew and reveal it hoping it would ignite the same passion and reverence in other people. But a picture contrary to Rob Kendrics book title cant really reveal character. and thats what this lifestyle we all hold in such high high regaurd is about. Character! do you have the guts to get it done! when the boss roped your mount out what really went through your mind, oh shit i hope Ray and Pat's stuff really works OR.......... Im going to beat this mother f---ers dick off with my romal until he cant buck any more. weather you had to do it or not is not the point! Thats character. When you make 750 a month and would just as soon take an ass beaten a day for the next month than go to the "feed store" for a bit and some reins. or ride around in some mexican made " good usin bit " with a Garcia, vogt of fleming stamped on it. When you have no F---ing idea how to run a calf table and if were asked would slap the shit out of the farmer/rancher ( what the Butterfly is that anyway! ) that asked you to run it.

THOSE ARE THE MEN WE SPEAK OF!!!! THOSE ARE THE MEN OF CHARACTER!!!!!!!!!!! They are not perfect they do not wisper and they have NO EQUAL! The reason these men are reveared as they are by those who understand is because they make no excuse for who they are. They will call it like it is and if yu dont like that or it pisses you off you are more than likely a f---ing Rozenjaw anyways! and just for the record fjd real hands DONT buy " silver bits and spurs" THEY ButterflyING MAKE THEIR OWN GEAR and Trade for what they cant. Now im sure ive pissed off alot on this board but hard as i try i cant seem to gather up a whole lot of give a shit!!!!!!! R************

"....I've got day cowboys that i respect the hell out of that have worn holes in the seats of their saddles and use old ropes for reins. . .furthermore id guess if the group of us went to one of these fancy events the folks would laugh at us as being the least authentic group because we dont know how to crease our hats and what shirt to wear. . and how in the hell can any of us afford silver bits and spurs????- hell if it wasnt for the feed store most of the guys i know wouldnt know where to get a piece of tack when wire and twine wont suffice. . . . and im not kidding when these folks dont know pat parelli from hal cannon from captain kangaroo. . . . well ive lost track of the point i was going to make. . . im branding some calves today and need to get to work.... F*****

Epileptic Horseman won't even let me post over there anyway so Butterfly them. That is a decent publication, but seems to me they just hype up all this natural horsemanship and make folks believe that all buckaroos and Nevada cow outfits only use natural horsemanship. All these way too serious crybaby dink types can get over it. P*****************

Yup, you nailed it. I've written several poems over the years trying to distill what you've said down into a few lines. My wife always gives me hell and wonders why I feel the need to bitch. You know, if you want to be a doctor, lawyer, etc, just about any proffession, you have to go to college and they give you a paper to hang on the wall to prove you are who you say you are. Not so in cowboyin' and ranchin. I get tired of the claimtobe's walking all over those of us who have bled and sweated and suffered to get to where we are and do what we do. You can't just buy the clothes and gear and do it. So that is why and what I write. Keep it up. Your doing a great job. If you need more pictures, hell I'll send you a few of mine, I'm just a wannabe anyway. J**************

Just read your response army. . .id say your response completes the gunsel page for now. . . no need for any further pictures right now. . and if there was any time you have written a manifesto for the site you did it last night. . . . F********

hit the nail on the head. keep up all th egood work with the site. love looking and reading everything on the site. thank you P*******************

I don't know what an eclectic horseman is but I sure wouldn't want one working with me. It looks like your reply pretty much hit it on the head. A bunch of this new breed can't or won't ride the ride or pay the price to get the work done. Had a gunsel tell me just the other day (I'd hollered at him cause he wouldn't get in the brush) that he wasn't riding a 400 dollar horse. Damn these people just chap my ass. Adios A******

Loved the wannabes reply! Thanks for standing up for all of us, for giving a voice to those who need one. A*******
Just got back from the "Guide" you are the undisputed, all time Queen, just take a deep seat and a faraway look, you'll ride em.
Piss on those thin skins if they can't take the heat. C**************

We just back from the vaquero country....Andalucia,Spain. Where all this stuff begun. Big huge AD 1500 Ranchos still full of hundreds of fighting bulls,thousands cows and vaqueros that still doin things as ever...u have to see it. Bullfighters,rancheros,land,....cow people...still proud.Hell!So proud u can't figger. It'was a terrific experience fer us.Well fer me mostly ,since my wife is spanish..she can dance flamenco and show me the story of the words Jaquima or caviada...etc.
We spent a week in this country...ridin with the vaquesros,sippin Manzanilla wine...and fell the life..a good life..it'was like goin back in the centuries.We have lotta pictures..if u want we can send to u. Thanks fer the pictures in the new web site-Nice site....
Keep goin...we re yer best fans here in Europe. Look in our website next week...u'll find a "buckarooguide fan club article!!!!" We love it. Here we try to keep the west western..even in the east... Thanks fer the word...forked. Even here is misused now,but im an ol flat brimmed guy...one of those that was called mexican by the reiners or the team ropers lotta years ago,just because they saw my wade and think it was a mexican rig(my hat off to all the charros...the best of the best)...so i know the term forked and i appreciate it. U r terrific!!! D****** and N************

Glad your site is back up. I heard some people hotly discussing your website with vile and disdain in Red Bluff this past weekend at the humped and hyped Californios. Ha! Do you really know how many peoples' feathers you've ruffled? Just thought I'd let you know the Guide remains a bone of contention amongst some of the those posing reincarnated types. You've kicked this whole genre in it's collective ass. Good going. Needed to be done - glad someone finally has the balls to do it and call these claimtobe (as you call them) clinic floozies and newcomers with more money than brains out on the carpet and remind them who was there first...they all could use some servings of humble pie. And glad to see you even spoof and roast yourself and the crowd you ran with. Shows you're willing to take it as well as dish it out. Cheers. R**********************

I am enjoying the new "guide". As I was looking for one of my pictures on the gunsel page I noticed you have one from the back of the latest Epeliptic. I am surprised you don't have the "Pyramid of Training" there beside it. Or how about someone that would spend $25 for a chunk of 2x4 to shape their bosal. W********

".....profiting off of the "buckaroo mystique": And there you have it in a nutshell. Also, you have these babyroos coming up looking at these pics thinking, well that is how it is... I mean they need to go back and see the Markus and Dusard pics of (not so) old, dontcha think. Yes a tie down at a buckaroo roping is pretty pathetic it would be like roping with a reata at a PRCA show...I myself have started cross dressing like a flyfisherman/potato farmer just so's I won't be confused with this new generation of Lil'Roos...." L****************

Ive been thinking about that Mizpah (Hotel in Tonopah, Nevada).... I do believe it should have picture windows with ladies of the night in each window. (like Amsterdam) Each window should have it's own theme. The wild red headed whores in with large baja hats with beaded chaps and tassle bras wearing the cheap petucci- perfume, the burnettes with the rawhide Jake Brown reates wrap around and the hobbles and quirts to do some spanking with buckaroo boots with large heals and the the big busted blonde bomb shells with babydoll outfits.....In each window a green iguana running around praying to the King...... Oh my goodness.... Once again my over active imagination is running off with me. I think I need a margarita. I do believe that a wild eyed man should be behind the bar like the goofy kook who runs the Winnemucca Hotel.. a bitter sardonic puss -gutted drunk...." you don't ask your mother what's for dinner" Jessie Brackenbury's nephew could be the piano player. Some Poker in front or liquor in the rear or is it liquor in the front and poker in the rear.... This place will have a sign that says "Everyone brings joy to room... some when they enter and others when they leave. "

Another sign that reads "Two and ten ----- Ten at Two"

Holy smokes.... You could set up the Nevada Buckaroo store that sales the latest and greatest craftsman gear.... Silver section- Leon Gage, Les, Barrack Freeman - hard to find Frankie Dougle mecate and the list goes on. The wannabees section of the store could have Sara Hagle reins and things and a special corner of What would Buck buy.... Holy smokes .. The dudes would drive for days..

The mind is a terrible thing to waste....

Mizpah --- Since gas prices are so dang high...This place needs to open up all of its old activities.. Back in 1908, the population of Tonapah was about 14,000... When the Green King bar opens, perhaps the old times can come back. ... The Butler House .... The Red Light District... Gambling... Many activities occurred in the town back in the days that the miners were there. Now that the The Green King has a throne- Tonapah must live.... Bring the booze, babes and bucks and they will come.... Green King Rules...

Start the expansion... Montgomery Pass - Janies(spelling)... Green King can have a colony.... Beatty.... oh the possiblities for the new employment... build an arena and they will come, mention a bar and we'll all drink!!! Cheers. L*********

"...in all seriousness, what about a corporation of cowboys? Buy it (The Mizpah) and hire someone to run it. Might be just the ticket. Sell shares and all shareholders get a free drink or some such. Add on some rooms for old retiring cowboys, buckaroos. Hell it would work. I'd buy into it if the shares weren't too high. Get a grant because of all the history. Take the Gathering away from Elko and have it there..." A**********

I send ya the pictures.Hope they re'ok.Thanks for insert em in yer site...it's an honor...even if i'm little worried bout yer spicy comments, but,...the hell! Do what u feel right. U r the Dalai Lama of us all so....Hope u ll visit Italy sooner or later ,but I figger that with the kinda of website u built up it's safer to stay anonymous....but in case u want a place to excape I have some remote cowcamps where nobody can find ya kid...

Hola Companero, ..about the jordan valley photo....the last guy on the right,standing with scarf,sunglasses and mustaches is my friend Mike Smit.He's at the Kuney ranch,under the steens,Harney County,or,i figger at the Alvord Ranch...anyway he's at the foot of the magic steen mountain.He's pretty forked and a very wise man.I have the honor to ride with him and he and all his family came here in Italy to show their skills at a hoss fair i organized couple years ago.He cames here twice.I w been on a cowcamp at the Maupin's outfit for three years in a row...durin brandin time bringin people learnin the buckaroo religion....
.....i know,u figger we European are a bunch of wannabees....and u are damn right!But i know lotta people from U.S. much less punchy than us all...my wife is from Spain,we know pretty well what a Vaquero is.Im from the wide open range of central Italy,real cow country.Ancient romans tend cattle here when North America have no cow at all.
But,i know,we re wannabees....but came to my place,we have a hundred of wild,wide open range bred wild cows,maremmana breed,long hornes,sharp hornes,chargey critters....we have to round em up em in a very unfenced,steep brushy country...leave at home yer fancy armitas...do not wear Paul Bond boots...do not forget a breast collar...hunting cows here it's a serious thing,yer saddle have to be in place...forget the story bout a good saddle doesn't need any b.collar.Experience our country first!!!
We still brand our cattle and hosses the ol way.We fight with the government bout water rights and pastures as u do...enviros are a coward thick on our neck too...not so much differences..except the style...But came here vaquero..
...We'll provide u a pretty surefooted quarter hoss or our local cowpony(let er buck pard)...at the end of the day u ll can eat fine food like wild boar meat(we hunt em!),range beef,red wine(our wine is strong and true,we're not from France!) and i figger pasta,but i dont like it...(the pasta). Well,i just wanna tell ya bout the guy in the picture.It's Mike.U bet. Please don't mess us with Germans.They build up nice buckaroo toys but all the cow they have are in the stalls or in small corrals.We have our cattle roamin free in central Italy and wild mean bulls in Southern Spain...i'ts another story...mebbe they are more showy,shadow riders and fancy vaqueros than us,but we run our outfits on hossback bygosh.Sure they can throw a perfect reverse back hand or a figure eight on a f.....g dummy but we rope for livin..and ,yup!... even for fun but,gee,on real cows and hosses!

PS remember..i ll be in Nevada next week!

YUP! u bet i'll send u our picture of buckaroo religion in Italy... ranch roping and punchy stuff as well our pilgrimage at the temple of white king...heck! u start up a very religion with yer website...i figger u r a genius and im not kiddin ya pard! Well,wait fer our pictures!If u want link up our site....but don't mess us with Germans!!!!!!!!! Well, this site it's one of the damn best things i had ever seen 'bout the buckaroo religion. I spent lotta time in the great basin area,in southeastern oregon and in other punchy places....I was hooked in the religion but im from Italy.I know im still a wannabee type,but im workin to have an upgrade...ill be in Elko next Saturday and @ Lowe ranch in Jackpot,Nv from Tuesday .Ill b there fer a week....well visit my site www.ranch-academy.com and see how we cowboy in Italy. Good job Pard.

D**********

He (Weaver) kinda reminds me of Hitler... bunch of devout followers that kiss his ass and hang onto his every word as though it were gospel doctrine... that and he's torturing all of whats left of the real buckaroos; Symonds and the like. I do have to hand it to him, that californios is pretty neat as far as roping competitions go…..I hate to compare you to the queen of drag... ass' Gwynn "Turn BullShit into Money" Weaver that your getting yourself quite a neat little internet following of ass kissers. Everyones afraid to cross you for fear they'll get they're ass fried on the guide.

R*************

You know its funny I grew up on the big outfits in Nevada. I rode for just about every wagon jerking son of bitch going. But I am to the point I am going to build myself a SF bowman roper get a pair tennie lamas and a ball cap. Just so nobody would ever think I am one of them. I dont mind a man being arogent (sp) but I have not time for knotheads. I have rode with cowboys from all over some damn good hands some not so good. But never in my life have i been around as many dinks wanting to play cowboy than i have in the past few years. Hell we use to start horses on the wagon at the IL. And I rode some real nice horses there. This whole californio BS is no different than the urban cowboy craze from the 70s. Just abunch of dinks who can't make on cow outfit so they went to town to off to a bunch townies who don't know any better. And I rope in town and even won a few down in Dublin Ca. when I was on a ranch out of Livermore. But any more its not who can rope better than the rest its what click to run with. Do you know so and so? Who built your saddle? Who braided your rope? And if you tell them I did. You don't get to win. Ya I have seen it from when it started when Mrs Weaver came to to Dublin looking for people to invite to Red Bluff. To what it has become today. Yep swell fork saddle for and a ball cap for me.

J***********

I've put it out on this list that I am a Texan that braids rawhide and rides a Wade and I still haven't made it to the "Wannabe" page! Geez, What's a fellow got to do!!??? Vaya Con Dios, "Dude, You look so 'Californio'!" "Dude, So do you!!!"

A****

MRS.JANE I WAS JUST LOOKING ON BUCKAROGUIDE.COM,ON THE CALIF PART THERE IS A BIG PICTURES OF A FEMALE BUCKAROO AND A DOG,IS THAT YOU,THE LADY IN THAT PICTURES IS DAMN NICE LOOKING.ALSO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT BRIE OR BRIO IS.

D***********

I love the site. I like that while it does poke serious fun, it doesn't come across as mean or degrading. It comes across as just some boys sitting on the fence joking with each other. Just some friendly "ribbing R***".

"Jake Brown is like a clown
wears his loafers out to town...
Dresses up for the event
some think his reata is money well spent
Collectors item for e-bayhigh prices Californios will pay.
Ortega and Morris can go to hell
Brown's reata is the only sale....

...yeah, i was actually reading on there this morning. they've updated it alot since the last time i was on there. you see on the cult of the white king page, there's two fellas drinkin, nad if you look close, there is a smirnoff bottle settin there!! pickled up on girly juice, huh!! I get a kick out of the german buckaroos too! J********* Wheres Claude when you need him... team ropers show up and steal the purse at a buckaroo gathering and him and his quick drawing arse are nowhere in site! M***********

http://clearoutwest.com/page4.html

Heard them talkin' about this site on Clear Out West Radio this AM. In fact they did a whole show about this site. It was neat that they found it. It is a little zany radio show that has several affilitates that it broadcasted out of Pinedale Wyo. Thought you might like to hear the webcast on their site sometime....

T****************

I joined that californios group and most everyone seems to talk down at you like they rode with Wescott on the final cycle on the MC, and/or they've roped in traps with Bill Kane and Monty Price and actually outclassed the pair of them (neither of which are things I've done). It tickles me to think of "true vaqueros" riding the sage brush hills of indiana and vermont... sounds to me like someones been drinking a little green dragon between pages of they're ed connel and tom dorrance bible study support sessions.

M****************

Is it eclectic or epileptic? Isn't BRIO the company that makes wooden trains for 2 to 4 year olds? What the hell do toy trains have to do with horses... or am I just not a true blue Vay-Quay-Row... I'll bet they all ride with true vaquero reins because bishop Richard Caldwell does in that video Jinglebob or whatever it was called. Don't all wannabe types have to own at least 8 signed Ian Tyson Cd's... and 20 odd books by various true Vaqueros... Ray Hunt... Pat Pernelly... Buck Branaman... Louis L'Amour... Ernie Morris... Have you mentioned Jim Andrae yet?

M***********

Well i seen you have a picture of mine on your page now. That one of the guy with the owayhee foretop well just so you know i dont mind you using my pictures at all. Just figured i would tell you that the guys name is *************he is a cowpuncher who spends more time in the bar drinking than he does ahorseback. Always "riding grannys colts for her" , i guess that wells family breeds a spacial kinda horse looks allot like a bar stool, but thats ok he still has a hard time settin them too !

D**************

You know I lived with those long horn herding pot bellied kids in the hills of Ruanda for some years. They as well have a thing like the "Cult of the White King". We could not afford Whiskey, we just drank banana beer. But we did not need much as we could only afford this once in three month.....

P*****

I looked at this sight when you first started it and boy did I laugh. I love all the new goodies you have added. I must say that people do think that the buckaroo way of life isa hobby, kind of like golfing. Only a few live the life everyday. I have seen way to many of the hobbiest dress up and have all the gear and then go crawl on there cripled so called bridle horse to try and brand calves. Most of the time they are looking to see were the camera lady is. We just try and stay out of there way so not to get killed. And I must admit laugh and tease a little about all the posing. My 6 year old daughter rides greener horses than most of them have ever thought of buying. I am not calling myself a true buckaroo I just come from cattle ranchers. But I think the fact that your not kissing anyones back side is great. I look forward to checking back for more great information.

A*********

YES IVE GOT A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE CULT OF THE WHITE KING. THANKS FOR ANY ANSWER

"WILD BILL" FROM DANDRIDGE TN.

Dear Wild Bill,
If you don't know there is no way to explain it to you.
However as one of the many vice pres. of recrutment Northern Navada dist. I can tell you that membership requirments are almost as tuff as Freemasons.
1) you must have spent at least 80% of your wages in the temple.
2) you must have been thrown out of the temple at least 25 times.
3) you must have been drunk in the old back bar before you were of legal age.
4) you must have seen the Matty Bro. show enough to know at least 95% of the show by heart. There are many other requirments but one must be at least on the recrutment list to know them. Contact your local rep. to see if you can be put on
the list.

White Cub.

I finally know how to crease my hat.

K***

Hi - I live in Brazil and I'm a Martin Black student and very intrested in the buckaroo culture. If you want to have an over viw about what we do here go to www.doma.com.br my main interest is to know what kind of information do you can offer, books, DVDs, or articles that I can downloud from the internet. Thanks for your attention...

E***********

OK, so I think this should be made into a book, movie, magazine......The Buckaroo Bible. Oscars, Talk shows, Autograph parties. You deserve it. WELL DONE! Truly great.

A*********

You need another category for "crossbreeds". It would fit those of us raised with the buckaroo tradition but no longer in the area. Now we have let cowboys and punchers corrupt us. While we insist on a hatchet fork saddle we might have a taco hat and bat wings. Or it could be that they are recovering team ropers introduced to the buckaroo style by the "Banana Bread" junkies. They can be found just about anywhere but the most sightings have been in Eastern Colorado, the Sand hills of Nebraska, and the Flint Hills of Kansas. A few reports say that they have been spotted as far east as Missouri. Although they had there pants tucked down into their boots like a bunch of inbred Okies.

W********

Thanks for the laughs. We got ran out of California about 30 years ago. Looked at a ranch in Nevada but settled in Missouri. Now we're too broke to leave...

W*************

Vaqueros in Deutschland, what the f*ck? Maybe they should be called Deutschlanderos or something. We need a name for them too. Funny how a lot of these clinicians have such a big market in Europe. I wonder if there is some finely crafted Wade saddles made over there. Maybe they have Jaegermeister and drink heavy German beer after they hold a rodear or one of there so called ranch ropings. What the hell would I know I never have been there. This www.buckarooguide.com is worth the view everyday. Keep up the good work.

B******

This is some of the funniest stuff I have seen since Rick the ( HAWG ) Bates got a boxing lesson or was it a flying lesson from Donna Sthil at the Diamond Bar in Denio. Keep up the good work.....

J***************

Re: "OK...so...you got him in the corner...NOW WHAT? Untangle your mecate? Flop your taps? Bond? Preen?"....
How about D. all of the above cause we all know you ain't gonna try to rope it what would everybody think if you missed your double overhand, triple roll over, back hand, prune picker more rope than arena, dogknot shot.....

J**********

Pilgrim? Pilgrim? Okay gunsel. ;)

R************

All I can say about this site. It just gets better and better. By the way, those pictures of mine you used of the flat hatted pretty boy? Setting his palamino horse over the flat cowpie? His first name is Travis. He's also the guy with his back to the camera on the other picture with the crew working the calf. Guy on the other end of the calf with a horse and rope is Bruce. Just in case they ever look in here and are surprised to see them selves. Keep it going!

R*************

You're site gets funnier every time I look at it. Somebody had to stand up to Ms. Weaver and her ass munchers. When are you gonna put up a section on green horns?

M*********

"If my mom knew i was punching cows she'd be mad as hell. So i tell her i sell dope instead !"

D*****************

. . i like great craft and the cowboy art as much as any one. . but when im working my cattle and have cowshit all over the front of me i dont care much about what size wild rag some dude wears in nevada....

J**

I was just turned on to this site! I just about wet myself from the hysteria... I am a bit disappointed in the lack of info on the Idahoian clan. That is a motley crew of cowboys and Indians.... Who needs a hunting license??? Who the heck is the dude or charro (viva la raza) on the dink horse with the dingleberries or is that his grandma's doily hanging on its head on the Californio page ?? Isn't that more south of the border tradition than the true Californio tradition? Where's he come from?

Pedro Marquez... where have all his women gone? A new babe at ever corner. He has been seen serenading big breasted women under trees at the Californios or has Pedro groupies followed him throughout Elko crying to be his page turner in Stockmans at weeee hours of the morning? I am sure Todd Hansen has witnessed some of these citings in years past. Perhaps the true blue buckaroo will make an appearance at the Alvord Ranch with some new tunes and a new set of groupies.... Wow this site sure has a place for all to read... I am sure all of his groupies now own a pendleton like Pedro - how it makes him look so strong and big... I love the life of the buckaroo..... it's such a romantic existance...

Is there any love here????

L**************

OH MY GAWD! Not only am I the bastard child of a 3 way incest mating. I am a cult member to boot. Funniest thing I have read in many years. Funny thing about the truth it often is very funny if you just open your eyes and see it. From a white shirt, Johnny Carson collection wino coat sporting, flat hat loving, Boeing 747 wing span taps, horse hair watch fob, Les Iveson bit packing, Levis cuffed to knees, D.W. boot dragging, brass oxbow peddling, slick fork saddle ridding, broke desert rat, with a plot in the Carlin grave yard, waiting my turn for help at the Matys Brothers Buckaroo Recovery Hospice in Beautiful Downtown Gerlach, Nevada.

J*******

"I think you've pissed off some of the Californios group!"

B*******

"Do you have a life insurance policy?" T************

Someone is reading my mail… I know the difference between “Coup de grase” when you shoot the poor bugger after the firing squad failed…with a pistol in the temple, and “Coup de Frieze”, when you rebrand the milk heifer that Belonged to Waddie’s adopted son at the 71 ranch. CJ Hadley agrees with me that this anonymous writer needs to credit lots of publications to stay out of jail. None of them are mine. One of them is RANGE. This is a beautiful, highly insider’s buckaroo website. My kindest compliments. It didn’t mention the arrows in the big plastic Polar Bear….. I know about one or two. It did not mention the fight between Willis Packer and Tom Marvel over the BLM fence. To the amazement of the BLM folk. Or Sam Johnnie’s escape from the Carson City Prison, riding to Winnemucca, walking to Ruby Valley, eating muskrats out of traps. Evading a posse and laughing at them from ridge tops. I know who ate Johnnie Long’s two-year old steer. Kind author, please accept my accolades, and take your responsibility. We owe you thanks for the short ride down memory lane. You owe for the things you borrowed.

R*******

"Absolutely the funniest thing I have read since my first trip through "The Last Buckaroo". I sure enough tip my sombrero to whoever is responsible for this first class piece of definitive journalism. (Still snickerin' here)"

A****

".....Too much!!I can bet all the wannabee’s are checking and rechecking to see if they have the right brand name, while the working stiffs ( who were lucky enough to visit the site or read a downloaded copy) are trying to come up with subtle but deadly barbs for you to pass on to...."

D***

"That is the most right on thing I've seen it's all the truth though!"

R*****

"I would just like to say that who ever done this sure hit the nail on the head. I just wish someone would do one of these for the southwest so it can be passed around to all these taco hatted wearing dinks who show up in all their punchyness who cant even shoe a f*****n horse ! We are tired of sending them back to the lone star state with their tails between their legs taco hats flapping in the wind right along with their playboy bunny leggins..."

D**********

I don't know who came up with this, but they are spot on! Damn! I thought I was going to die from laughing. Worst part of it is, it's too true. Please pass on my regards to the author and let them know there are quite a few of us who would like to shake their hand!

R********

Please pass on that my wife calls the real intense, CALIFORNIO down to the socks guys 're-enactors'. Site is a hoot.

L*****

I happen to know someone who is helping out with that www.buckarooguide.com website, but I won't say. Some of the Californios in this yahoo group thing I don’t think find a whole lot of humor in it.

B********

Ohhhh, I'm going nuts thinking about who could have done this. I've got several people in mind, but I ain't sure…..I still think this is one of the funniest things I have ever seen!

R******

Thought I was the only one that remembered Claude Dallas.

F************

Is the "Brio Cult" some Merlot drinking, Banna Bread Brannaman/Ray Hunt groupy, Peruvian Paso ridin, Wintec saddle ridin, disco dancin person from Palm Springs, that only dreams they could be in the "Cult of White King". I am just trying to get some more information on these types.....

B*************

RE: the Yahoo group http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Californio/ Seems to me you MUST find a place on the website for this word! The "BRIO CULT" a sub category for the California type?

W*********